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robs camaro i spent saturday teaching him how to pull a motor.this was what was in there got it to run good but had alot of blowby so had to come out.
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just to prove rob is working on his own car had my brother showing him what to do
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what will be going in today
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new motors in and running still trying to figure out if we are doing a tunnel ram or not
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looking good manny nice to see the spray on there

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comming along great

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bdj406 wrote:

looking good manny nice to see the spray on there




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Just keep one carb on it,And where did that motor come from?

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Sorry b i didnt see that picture way off to the side>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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pretty much done just some rewiring to do
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that air cleaner hides the spray real nice looks good


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rob wussed out on the spray wont let me put it on

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fucking pussy

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Manny,

Thanks for the lesson on motors. Thanks for showing me how to tell the crank was internally balanced. The slugs seemed welded into place well and the holes were drilled clean. I never knew so much work went into just balancing the crank.

The motor sounds great. The high compression pistons and those heads seem to go well together.

Rob

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sweet. good job manny/rob! always fun to teach and learn about motors and everything thats involved in builds/tear-downs! good luck with it

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Nice...........Now get your ass to a car show with us rob.

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So where did the motor come from...? Craigslist.
The motor was advertised on Craigslist as a 383 Stroker for $1500 with a Super T10 tranny. I didn't need the tranny, so I asked the seller how much for just the motor. He said $900 and I went to go look at it.

His story was that he bought a Camaro (which was still in his driveway for sale too) for $1500 and the previous owner told him it had a 383 Stroker motor. He wanted to replace the dead motor in his Monte Carlo SS with this motor. But he decided to build a big block for the Monte instead. Right off the bat, I asked him if he had verified if it really was a 383 Stroker and he said he had not. I told him that all I really cared about was that it was a 350 or larger (and the 010 castings on the block verified that) and that it ran well… no oil leaks or smoke. He said he would guarantee that it ran. Him and his brother swore up and down that it was a nasty motor. They weren’t positive that it was a stroker, but they said it broke the Camaro’s wheels loose on the highway with it and there was no way it was just a stock 350. They posted on CL that the motor had 70k miles on it, but when I called they said 10k miles and then when I showed up, they said 30K miles… I figured they had no clue of the actual mileage. As long as it was guaranteed to run, I was happy. They even gave me a receipt.

They showed me the new big block they were building. So I felt comfortable they weren’t lying about that. They also gave me a new chrome oil pan and chrome timing chain cover, along with new gaskets still in the package. I figured that they would not have bought all this SBC stuff and started to clean/paint the motor if they thought the it was junk. Or, maybe they bought the stuff and then found out the motor was junk when they pulled the pan… I took a chance and bought it.

The motor was complete, including alternator, water pump, balancer, Holley Carb, Edelbrock valve covers and air filter assembly. My plan was to use the best parts on the Camaro motor and then build a spare motor with all the extra parts.

More to come...

-- Edited by rdicarlo on Tuesday 10th of August 2010 01:28:08 PM

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are those vortec heads on there

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The casting numbers on the heads were 416's and they came back as 305 heads.
It had a double roller timing chain set installed.

Manny and I did drop the oil pan to install the chrome one and we found a few surprises...
There was gas in the oil. I was bummed. We checked the main cap for damage and it was in good condition. We believe the gas was used to clean the motor and the motor was never run with the gas in the oil.

The crank was a 442 crank (Manny, correct me if I'm wrong). Which makes it a 350 crank, not a 400 crank... 3.48 stroke not a 3.75 stroke... no stroker motor here... bummer.
The good news is that that crank was internally balanced and the motor appeared to be professionally rebuilt and in good working order. The pistons appear to be good high compression aftermarket pistons… We don’t know what size for sure. It could be a 350 or the motor could be bored over.

The motor seemed to have very high compression, probably a combination of the pistons and 305 heads.

We used my 700 CFM Holley Carb and air gap intake on it for now.

Manny told me that the motor started right up and appears to be running well. But he still wants to tune and time it to get the most performance out of it.


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so does it have a stock cam

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not sure about the cam... we didn't pull it.

Manny and his brother both thought the valves had very high lift. Also the oil pump seemed like it had high pressure.

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the plan now is to tune it, drive it, dyno it, run it and go from there...

-- Edited by rdicarlo on Tuesday 10th of August 2010 03:05:25 PM

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Looking and sounding good, Rob! Glad Manny hooked you up and you guys got it going. So that's two cars now?! Man, you're doing better than me. :) Now, let's get that thing to the track!

Congrats again!

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Alright... sun's out and I have been thinking about the camaro lately. Manny's new job (congrats manny) and his new toy truck are rightfully taking up most of his time.

Manny's going to try to tear into her this week.  If he can't, I'm going to tow her back home and finish her.

I'm not sure what work I'm going to be doing myself or what I'm going to farm out.  Just really depends on how much heavy lifting is involved, tools needed, skill,  time and money (obviously).

The goal is 1 track pass before season's over...  Need to know what the car can run in the 1/4 mile or what wants to break first.



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What else do I need to swap this 4spd setup from a 2nd gen into a 3rd gen ? Thanks, rob



-- Edited by rdicarlo on Sunday 8th of May 2011 02:07:27 PM

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http://msperformanceonline.com/40138.html

 

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http://www.amazon.com/Eibach-3801-140-Pro-Kit-Performance-Spring/dp/B000BWC9K6


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any good?



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I'm not sure the 4 speed swap is worth the work. You would have to fab something for the torge arm and a drive shaft and I'm guessing a clutch linkage. Just find a t5 swap pr a 6 speed or put a manual vb in the 700r.



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How difficult is it to install a mvb?  Does the trans have to come out?

And what is the difference between a manual valve body and a constant pressure valve body?



-- Edited by rdicarlo on Sunday 8th of May 2011 03:12:41 PM

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did you have to open up a summit catalog from 1995 to get those valve covers and air cleaner wink. sounds good.



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lol... got them with a used motor purchase.

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Tranny does not have to come out to do vb. Manual vb is like a stick with out a clutch. You shift it when you want. I really don't like mine for the street but it's not bad.



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camaro qualifies for antique reg this year... time for cheaper insurance... yes

 

why wouldn't I want a constant pressure vb over the mvb? http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TC&Product_Code=376020

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http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TC&Product_Code=370811&Category_Code=

 

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I'm not sure what the constant pressure one does but it sounds like you still need to have the kick down cable which will need to be adjusted right. I don't know what the tranny is doing and why it's not shifting.



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you would need a camaro bellhousing for the offset the pedal setup and hydro's and something like an umi crossmember so the torque arm would be on crossmember look for tpi hearse on tgo he prob has the parts and check classic industries they have a camaro catalogue i think i saw converstion kits there.. i think the constan preassure is supposed to keep the preassur so you dont burn it up if the tv cable is slightly out of adjustment and for better preassure at low rpms ( again im not 100% positive)



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oh ya then the flywheel and clutch for the correct input shaft spline



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I picked up the camaro from manny today.  He recommended that I look at the Edelbrock 1405 carb to TH700R-4 trans TV linkage.

I'm thinking about ordering this tomorrow... It cost $130.  what do you guys think?

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They have a braided kit to for $30 more.

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lokar makes a nice cable also. not sure if they make the tv cable though. i can look and get a part number. the braided one looks nice.



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http://phoenixtrans.com/html/tvcablekits.html

 

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....Just my luck... The day I pick up my camaro from manny, I find the T5 swap parts. I should be picking them up in the morning. So scratch the TV cable kits and time to swap in the T5.

 

http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/thirdgen5spdconversion



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Today, I picked up most of the parts needed to do the T5 swap...

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rob that is the right flywheel for your motor thats for a 2 piece rear seal so you dont need to buy a new one.



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Do I need any special fittings to use the aftermarket hydraulic master/slave cylinder?



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you should start by getting some lights in that garage. 



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you should start by getting some lights in that garage. 


 

 Agreed... or a camera phone with a flash.



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1972468bb wrote:

you should start by getting some lights in that garage. 


 

 

x2  it looks like a torture chamber.



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you should start by getting some lights in that garage. 


x2  it looks like a torture chamber.


 I sold my waterboarding stuff on CL.

 



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more pics of the t5 swap stuff



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looking good rob. i love the 80's shift knob. same one my dad had on his 87

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rob wheres the slave cylinder pushrod and boot??

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